Friday, June 1, 2012

When "minister" asks you for money

Joan Boney ... apostle/prophet

The apostle Paul said ... For there are many unruly and vain talkers and deceivers, specially they of the circumcision:  Titus 1:10

I receive emails from "ministers" who are trying to deceive me.  We come across people who say they are Christians who try to deceive us or are vain talkers and would mislead us if God allowed it, but God doesn't allow it.

When a "minister" comes asking for money, that means that "minister" has gone off on his own works and is trying by fleshly means to get others to pay for his works or he doesn't understand turning to God for God's support and trusting God.

When God is behind the work, God provides.  It is not a matter of fleshly means of getting money such as asking other people to send money.  These fleshly "ministers" can only see other humans as the source of money.  But we who are of God know that all we have to do is to wait on God and if the work is of God then the money just comes in without our asking humans (other flesh) for money.  

But so many "ministers" are of the flesh and not of the Spirit and their "good works" are of the flesh and not of the Spirit so they have to try to get "flesh" (other humans) to pay for their works.

Jesus said ...

Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven. 22Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works? 23And then will I profess unto them,  I never knew you: depart from me, ye that work iniquity.  Mt. 7

And as he sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto him privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of thy coming, and of the end of the world?
4And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you. 5For many shall come in my name, saying, I
(Jesus) am Christ; and shall deceive many.  Mt. 24


But, beloved, remember ye the words which were spoken before of the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ; 18How that they told you there should be mockers (those who copy real persons of God) in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts. 19These be they who separate themselves, sensual, having not the Spirit.  Jude

The real ministers of God minister to the spirit... turning you to God ... turning you to scripture to get you to modify your ways on this earth ... always working to help you to see the way of God and encouraging you in the way of God.


The ministers of the flesh come wanting something from you ... in the "name" of Jesus ... for some "good" work.

Paul said ... But my God shall supply all your need  ... Phil. 4

But some "ministers" try to get you to supply all their need.  They speak of their need to you ... to get you to send money to them.  This way is not of God.  They are simply working on your flesh to get you to give to them.  They say:  "We are trying to build a building ... We are trying to care for orphans ... We need Bibles ..."  but always "they need you to give to them".  But when you are godly, it is God who supplies all your need ... They are ungodly in their fleshly approach.

Some even send pictures of the orphans to hook you to their flesh.  These are ministers of the flesh and not of the Spirit.

One minister asked me recently to send a picture of myself to him.  I replied, "I don't have a picture of me."  (what does a photo of me do to minister to the spirit ... nonsense ... this is just all flesh.)  Later I thought, "I could send 104 pictures of my cat."  This makes as much sense as sending a picture of me!  None of this is at all spiritual.  It is just flesh.

One email came from a "pastor"  ... "inviting" me to speak at a minister's conference in London.  Transportation, meals, hotel and a speaking fee would be paid to me.  I replied I did not want a fee to speak to the church.  But this was all a scam to get money.  What they were doing is offering a speaker's fee of $8500 but you would have to get a work permit from England so you were to send them approximately $499 for the work permit.  Then "they said" they would send you round trip air.  (after they received money from you for work permit)  We found on internet this was a scam.  I told them by email we had learned this was scam.  I heard no more from them.

I do not think we should be bitter over all these various deceptions by so-called "ministers" .

We who are of God, chosen by God, are grateful to God for HIS provision.  We are grateful HE chose us.  We didn't choose HIM.  He chose us.  And HE provides for us in all ways, spiritually and physically and HE will provide for us even unto death.  How can we not rejoice that we belong to HIM.

The others who depend on their own flesh and the flesh of other humans either do not belong to God or have just copied ungodly "ministers" rather than trusting in God.

We just rejoice that God is our God and we belong to HIM and our names are written in the Lamb's book of life.

Some people are appointed to salvation ... some people are appointed to destruction as was Pharaoh.  Romans 9.

(For the children being not yet born, neither having done any good or evil, that the purpose of God according to election might stand, not of works, but of him that calleth;) 12 It was said unto her, The elder shall serve the younger.   13As it is written, Jacob have I loved, but Esau have I hated... Hath not the potter power over the clay, of the same lump to make one vessel unto honour, and another unto dishonour? 22What if God, willing to shew his wrath, and to make his power known, endured with much longsuffering the vessels of wrath fitted to destruction:  23And that he might make known the riches of his glory on the vessels of mercy, which he had afore prepared unto glory,   Romans 9

So rejoice if you are one of those appointed to salvation.

But beware of the deception and turn from it for deception is one of those things that will be rampant in the last days and many will come saying "Jesus is Lord" and they will deceive many in the name of Jesus.  Jesus said, "Let no man deceive you."  Mt. 24

(One "pastor" told me "God" told him that I was to come help him.  He said to let him know when I arrive in his country ... 1/2 way across the world from where I live ... I am 74 years old ... 2 years ago, I had accident.  During surgery bone in leg shattered and left me partially crippled.  I have to use wheelchair in grocery store.  Sometimes it is so painful that I can barely walk in my own house from one room to another ... I explained to this "pastor" that I come to him and to others all over the world like Paul comes to us today ... I come to all daily by these daily exhortations.  And these are by the Spirit of God to help us, the church, daily.  And we are very grateful that we can do this, go all over the world today, without cost, for these internet writings are "free" to us and unlimited.  We can write as many pages as we want without cost.  And we go all over the world today without cost!  What a wonderful thing!)
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