A woman in our little church group sent me an email a couple of days ago and it was very disturbing. She showed much confusion and what she was about to do had potential of great harm toward herself. This woman has been with us for about 30 years. She has a history of being unstable. When she writes to me she produces no good fruit and often her writing is very disturbing, affecting me. I do not know if she is born again. I do not have any real evidence that she has the Holy Spirit. And everything starts with this. I cannot cause this woman or anyone else to be born again. All I can do is to be faithful to God share those messages which I believe to be from God and to keep sharing them. I have done this for many years and still do such both on Internet and by email and telephone directly to the person.
Over a period of 24 hours, I believe God helped me to work through her problem and I am going to share with you the messages involved with this.
First: The setting.
This woman reported 2 dreams which made no sense to me. She tried to interpret them and that made no since either. The basic interpretation she presented is that she believed that God was going to move her. So she put her house up for sale. God did not tell her to put her house up for sale nor did God tell her to do anything else she was planning. (She is 74 years old.) I can only assume that she was somehow doing this "by faith". But this is an incorrect way of dealing in faith for before you can do anything you must hear from God and then your faith is built on that which you heard from God. She was trying to make things happen. Her faith was being built on her interpretation of what she thought God was going to do. If God is going to do something, let HIM do it. You do not have to try to make it happen unless you have specific instruction which she did not have. Everything was coming from what she thought those dreams meant. People are often wrong on interpretation of dreams.
The remainder of this involved 3 or 4 emails as follows:
The Emails:
Email #1 ... To Juliett from Joan Boney
I don't see any real establishing by God in your story ...
You are easily deceived ... sorry to say but this is my perception
Extreme warning ... proceed with extreme caution ...
I feel you are unstable.
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Email #2 ... To Juliett from Joan Boney
This may shock you but I see you as almost as unstable as Sandra ...
You have background of unstable ...
Best I can do for you is to warn you to be content especially if you are
able to pay for housing, food, clothing ... and are not going into any debt.
What I saw from what you wrote is you trying to make something happen ... but it was of yourself ... not of God.
Careful
... Don't take unnecessary changes. House, food, clothing, essentials
... especially don't try to be religious ... and just remember how
unstable you have been in past. I can certainly see devils trying to
deceive you ...
Scares me to death!
Love Joan
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Email # 3 ... To Juliett from Joan Boney
Juliett: One of the greatest
concerns during the 30 years I've known you, your fruit is so bad.
When you send me an email I often grieve over what you say or over what
you are planning (such as today's email). Certainly this causes me not
to want to read your emails.
Concerning
finances, certainly it is very important for each of us to live within
our means. I choose to live significantly below my means as I will
explain.
When
Betsy and I go to eat, I never buy Iced Tea with my meal. It costs
about $2.25 to 2.50 per glass. I don't choose to pay that much so I
just drink water with lemon and when I get home I have iced tea. I
always have a pitcher of iced tea in refrigerator.
Today,
I went to
Golden Corale for take out food. I don't want much food. So I get the
small container and put baked fish in the container and take that
home. The cost of this today was $1.15. I had macaroni and cheese
which I had cooked previous day so I put that with the fish.
I
buy most of my groceries at Walmart since it is cheaper than United.
Example BlueBell Ice Cream is $5.50 at Walmart and around $6.80 at
United.
I
get medicine from Costco. One medicine is $204 for 90 tablets at CVS
and same medicine is $35 at Costco. Another medicine (eye drops for
glaucoma) is $64 at CVS and same medicine in $13 at Costco.
A
few years ago when house was being built I was playing bridge. Coffee
at the bridge
center was 50C a cup. I found I could make coffee at home for less and
take it in Thermos. Every bit helps when you are in debt as I was at
that time during the construction project.
When
I go to What a Burger I found I was not eating all my food when I got
regular size. So I began buying a What a Burger junior with small FF
instead of medium. That is all I wanted to eat.
My one luxury are books. I have a kindle and buy e- books from Amazon ... I read often a book a day when it is normal size.
I
never shop for cheap workers concerning the property. I have excellent
cleaning woman who comes weekly and cleans for 3 hrs. I have good yard
crew for moving.
A
man is putting new seat cushions in my worn out chairs at my house. I
was shocked at how little he was charging. When he gives me the final
bill, I plan to add between $300-$500 to the cost. I'm pleased to be
able to do this. Since I am not under a financial burden I can reward
good workers when I can find good workers.
I
do not take the $1500 salary from ministry although I am clear to do
so. I find I am able to live on my social security which is $777 per
month.
My
car is 20 years old and runs well. Cost me very little to operate it.
I don't go anywhere but for groceries and take out food. I have very
good mechanic to keep car working. Insurance is about 150 per 6 months
because car is so old I do not have to get comprehensive.
I really don't think much about money, I just live below my means and am happy with less.
Consequently
I have
more money monthly than I would have expected to have and the ministry
has more than one would think with so few people contributing.
I
don't often think about what might happen to me when I get older. I
don't often think of money other than to thank God for the money.
I'm
not trying to do anything at all except what I believe God tells me to
do.The rest of the time I just stay home, watch some TV, read quite a
bit for I enjoy reading more than TV.
I
never think of traveling or moving about. I see travel shows on TV and
enjoy them but am always grateful that I can do this without leaving my
house.
I
don't need many clothes. I have a couple of things that I have worn 2
or 3 years and a pair of very stable shoes from 2004 which are still
very comfortable.
My life is very simple and I am happy (unless I get a troublesome email like I did today from you,
Juliett)
It seems to me that everything is very much under control in my life and I would be very surprised if God shook it up.
The
point is we are all adults and
hopefully have common sense. We need to consider our lives and work
out our own salvation . Mostly that will mean just staying still where
we are. And taking care of business where we are. I like to live below
my means financially. And this is what I do.
If you can't pay bills then that is another matter. But I doubt many of you are in that position.
Basically having food and raiment be content and grateful and avoid the desire to jump tall buildings in a single bound.
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Email #4 ... to Juliett from Joan Boney
Juliett ...
Love, Joan
Two things that I believe will help you considerably ...
I
recall you have a keyboard and like to play and sing hymns ... do that a
lot when you are home. It will build you up and drive devils away.
Much of the torment of your mind is coming from devils.
(I Sam. 16 ... 23And it came to pass, when the evil spirit from God was upon Saul, that David took an harp, and played with his hand: so Saul was refreshed, and was well, and the evil spirit departed from him. )
You
have to get a very firm grip on finances and it doesn't sound like you
have that. It is not a matter of what we are going to earn tomorrow.
It is a matter of can we live on what we have today. Is there enough
money to pay for housing, food, raiment and basic needs?
As
I reported last night, I live below my means. Each month I receive
$777 in social security. I usually have around $300 left over each
month at the end of the
month so the balance in my checking account keeps getting larger each
month. This is what you need to see in your life.
If that is already happening, I don't see a problem.
If you are spending more than you are making then
there is a problem and you have to change your spending to the point
that you have a surplus in money at the end of each month.
If
you need to make spending changes consider how you can do that. Make
those changes even on the little things ... I gave several examples in
last night's email and these should help you to get ideas. Even
spending $1 or $2 less can make a difference for this is a pattern which
will change the way you think about things and in time it will pay off.
Do these two things and I believe you will begin to crawl out of the mental spiral.
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Email #5 ... to Juliett from Joan Boney
Juliett
As
I told you last night, the fruit you have produced during the time I
have know you has been bad fruit and you have show continued
instability.
I
don't know if you are born
again. I don't know if you have the Spirit of God. Certainly if you
are born again with the Spirit of God there should be good fruit so I
suspect a problem.
Nevertheless the fruit is bad fruit.
For example, your email
yesterday where you told the 2 dreams and told what you thought they
meant and then when you went on to talk about putting house up for sale
but you didn't know what you would do nor where you would go and you
were having financial changes (apparently not meeting financial needs)
... this depressed me and affected me negatively... I began to doubt
the work I do. If a person can sit among us as you and Sandra did and
still be so weak and unstable, what does that say about me? I began a
downward spiral.
Then
I turned my thinking around by focusing on the fact that all I have
done all these years is to report those things God has spoken so this
must be important and must be continued even when those in our group
don't get it. The important thing is God has shared His Word with us
and it is my assignment to report what I hear from Him.
But you see how your bad fruit can affect other people.
But
if you start doing the two things I just sent by email, I believe you
will turn around. I can't cause you to be born again. That must come
from God and is between you and God. But I believe I can help you with
the emotional destruction and the financial thinking.
The bad fruit tells the truth
though and must be in our thinking about you.
The
previous email from you with bad fruit was when you said you couldn't
share a scripture because "you were not worthy". That showed you were
being ruled by devils and you had let them take over in your mind rather
than fighting them and overcoming through God. I was very depressed
over this email.
We'll see how it goes in future if you do those 2 things I told you to do and keep doing thing.
Love, Joan