Saturday, August 8, 2015

Sexual sins in church groups

Joan Boney ... apostle/prophet

Fornication is a sin.  Fornication is not only a sin, it is a sin different from all other sins.  Paul says fornication is a sin against "his" own body.  Paul was telling us fornication is a sin against Christ's own body.

Paul says ... I Cor. 6 ... Know ye not that your bodies are the members of Christ? shall I then take the members of Christ, and make them the members of an harlot? God forbid. 16What? know ye not that he which is joined to an harlot is one body? for two, saith he, shall be one flesh. 17But he that is joined unto the Lord is one spirit. 

18Flee fornication. Every sin that a man doeth is without the body; but he that committeth fornication sinneth against his own body. 19What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Ghost which is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own? 20For ye are bought with a price: therefore glorify God in your body, and in your spirit, which are God’s.

At the time of sexual intercourse the two become one flesh.  (This is when marriage occurs.)  Sexual intercourse makes you one flesh with that other person.  Paul explains to the men that even if the person is an harlot, you become one flesh with her at the time of sexual intercourse.

We know fornication is rampant in the world today and accepted by the world today as "normal".  This is also a serious problem in church groups today.

There was a deacon in the Baptist church who tried to get me to have sex with him. He said it was all right to have sex that God knew we needed sex.  I got my Bible and read the following to him.

I Cor. 7 ... to avoid fornication, let every man have his own wife, and let every woman have her own husband. 3Let the husband render unto the wife due benevolence: and likewise also the wife unto the husband. 4The wife hath not power of her own body, but the husband: and likewise also the husband hath not power of his own body, but the wife. 5Defraud ye not one the other, except it be with consent for a time, that ye may give yourselves to fasting and prayer; and come together again, that Satan tempt you not for your incontinency.

This Baptist deacon was married.  He had a wife.  Later I learned he was also asking other women in his church group to have sex with him.

What should happen to such a man in the church?

Paul tells us what to do to such ...  

Paul calls such a man "wicked" and says to put him out of the church.  Paul didn't say to pray for him and counsel him.  Paul said to put him out of the church and do not keep company with him.

I Cor. 5 ... I wrote unto you in an epistle not to company with fornicators: 10Yet not altogether with the fornicators of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or with idolaters; for then must ye needs go out of the world. 11But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat. 12For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within?  13But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person.

If that person is permitted to remain in the church group, then we who are of God must leave that church group.  

The leaven of sin in the church group will work itself through the entire church group and we will end up affected if we remain where there is uncorrected sin in a church group.

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While Jesus forgave the woman taken in adultery, Jesus told her the following:  "Go, and sin no more."  Jn. 8 

 When Jesus healed a man, reported in John 5, we read following14 Afterward Jesus findeth him in the temple, and said unto him, Behold, thou art made whole:sin no more, lest a worse thing come unto thee. 

When we have been forgiven sin, we must not return to those sins.  The consequences can be terrible.  And even worse to me than the sin would be disappointing God which would be done to return to the sin for which we have been forgiven by God. 

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I met a man named Joe in a church I once attended.  We dated.  One night we returned to my apartment for coffee.  I was making coffee and when I came out of the kitchen Joe was standing there totally naked.  I grabbed my car keys and fled my apartment.  I realized my apartment would be left unlocked (and my purse was still in my apartment) but to me the important thing was to get away from Joe.  I drove to my business which I owned at the time and slept on the sofa in my office.  Later in the night, I drove back to my apartment.  Joe's car was gone.  I went into my apartment and locked the door.  I had nothing more to do with Joe in the singles class at the church group after this. 

When faced with sexual sins, we who are of God just flee. 

That is what Paul said to do in I Cor. 6:18 ... Flee fornication

That is also the example we have in the Bible when Joseph was confronted by Potiphar's wife. 

Gen. 39 ... And Joseph was brought down to Egypt; and Potiphar, an officer of Pharaoh, captain of the guard, an Egyptian, bought him of the hands of the Ishmeelites, which had brought him down thither. 2And the LORD was with Joseph, and he was a prosperous man; and he was in the house of his master the Egyptian. 3And his master saw that the LORD was with him, and that the LORD made all that he did to prosper in his hand. 4And Joseph found grace in his sight, and he served him: and he made him overseer over his house, and all that he had he put into his hand.  

5And it came to pass from the time that he had made him overseer in his house, and over all that he had, that the LORD blessed the Egyptian’s house for Joseph’s sake; and the blessing of the LORD was upon all that he had in the house, and in the field. 6And he left all that he had in Joseph’s hand; and he knew not ought he had, save the bread which he did eat. And Joseph was a goodly person, and well favoured. 

7And it came to pass after these things, that his master’s wife cast her eyes upon Joseph; and she said, Lie with me.  

8But he refused, and said unto his master’s wife, Behold, my master wotteth not what is with me in the house, and he hath committed all that he hath to my hand; 9There is none greater in this house than I; neither hath he kept back any thing from me but thee, because thou art his wife: how then can I do this great wickedness, and sin against God?  

10And it came to pass, as she spake to Joseph day by day, that he hearkened not unto her, to lie by her, or to be with her.  

11And it came to pass about this time, that Joseph went into the house to do his business; and there was none of the men of the house there within. 12And she caught him by his garment, saying, Lie with me: and he left his garment in her hand, and fled, and got him out. 

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Joseph Meriweather, from our little church group, sent me an email telling me of a dream he had where God showed him it is evil to look on a woman sexually even if you do not actually touch her.

Jesus also spoke about adultery in your heart ... 


Mt. 5...Ye have heard that it was said by them of old time, Thou shalt not commit adultery: 28But I say unto you, That whosoever looketh on a woman to lust after her hath committed adultery with her already in his heart.    

29And if thy right eye offend thee, pluck it out, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.  30And if thy right hand offend thee, cut it off, and cast it from thee: for it is profitable for thee that one of thy members should perish, and not that thy whole body should be cast into hell.


Joseph also said the worldly saying, "Look but don't touch", is not true.  If you look at her with lust in your heart it is adultery.

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There are evil pastors in many churches today.  Some people who know the pastors are doing evil want to forgive them.  

God gave me a very important view of this subject. 

 If there is a man who has a past of abusing little children, you as a parent do not say, "We must forgive him," and then send your small child out with this child abusing man to get ice cream.  You wouldn't think of doing such a thing.  Not only would you keep your own children away from such a man but you would warn your friends and neighbors about this man. 

These evil pastors abuse the children of God in the congregation  When we see such we warn the congregation.  They abuse the scriptures and misuse scriptures and even cause some to blaspheme scriptures and they extort money from the congregation. 

These pastors are like the man who abuses a little child. 
We warn the church when we see this. And we depart from these evil pastors. 

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Recently a woman came to us.  She was trying to correct people in church groups ... even correcting pastors and such .... No doubt they needed correcting.  But the problem is she, herself, was committing fornication while doing these corrections..  This is a terrible thing. 

Paul says the following concerning those who come among the church while committing fornication and other sins ...

I Cor. 5 ... I wrote unto you in an epistle not to company with fornicators: 10Yet not altogether with the fornicators of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or with idolaters; for then must ye needs go out of the world. 11But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat. 12For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within?  13But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person.

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Here is a letter I wrote to that woman:

7-25-13

It is hard to image you could criticize blind church goers who probably do not have the Spirit of God while you lived in fornication having the Spirit of God.

This is so evil it is beyond my comprehension.

For the time being I don't want to receive emails from you. 

You don't need to be talking at this point.

If possible, you need to get your life straight and live a godly life in Christ Jesus.

I have removed all reference to your name in our Internet writings.  Fortunately I am able to go back and delete items.

These writings are things God has shown us.  That is the way it should be.  I thought it was God showing you the evil in the churches but when you were living in fornication and writing these things it is just not compatible.

Please do not respond to this email.  I don't need to hear your words.  Just learn to live decently and honestly and morally according to the Bible if you can.

Joan Boney  

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After I wrote this to her, I kept being reminded of Esau who sold his birthright for a morsel of meat.  

Heb. 12 ... Lest there be any fornicator, or profane person, as Esau, who for one morsel of meat sold his birthright. 17For ye know how that afterward, when he would have inherited the blessing, he was rejected: for he found no place of repentance, though he sought it carefully with tears. 

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Heb. 10 ... For if we sin wilfully after that we have received the knowledge of the truth, there remaineth no more sacrifice for sins, 27But a certain fearful looking for of judgment and fiery indignation, which shall devour the adversaries. 28He that despised Moses’ law died without mercy under two or three witnesses: 29Of how much sorer punishment, suppose ye, shall he be thought worthy, who hath trodden under foot the Son of God, and hath counted the blood of the covenant, wherewith he was sanctified, an unholy thing, and hath done despite unto the Spirit of grace? 30For we know him that hath said, Vengeance belongeth unto me, I will recompense, saith the Lord. And again, The Lord shall judge his people. 31It is a fearful thing to fall into the hands of the living God.

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We cannot, and will not, allow willful sin to sit among us in the body of Christ, the church.

Notice that Paul said to put such a person away from you when they call themselves a "brother" and are a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner ... with such an one no not to eat.  I Cor. 5

(Many pastors today are extortioners, wresting money from the congregation with false promises which seem based on scripture but where the scripture is misused, such as the 100-fold return scripture ... see writing:  "Ministers who use 100-fold return to extort money")

I believe "willful sins", after one has been enlightened by God to the truth, are sins unto death as per I Jn. 5.

John says:  I Jn. 5:16 ... If any man see his brother sin a sin which is not unto death, he shall ask, and he shall give him life for them that sin not unto death. There is a sin unto death: I do not say that he shall pray for it. 17All unrighteousness is sin: and there is a sin not unto death.

Certainly God will judge these people.  But in meantime, we are to put them away from us and this is what I did in this case and I have done this before in the past in the church.

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Also the following is very important:

II Thess. 2 ...  10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.

Please read:  Evil from pastors