Joan Boney ... apostle/prophet
When I drive down 82nt St. in Lubbock I pass a Methodist church. They have a billboard in front of their building and they list on that billboard the topic for the next sermon. I always wonder how they know.
The way God taught me is as follows: "Speak what I give you at that time".
Lk. 21 ... 14Settle it therefore in your hearts, not to meditate before what ye shall answer: 15For I will give you a mouth and wisdom, which all your adversaries shall not be able to gainsay nor resist.
When I had meetings for radio audience or when I spoke to congregation at a church, I usually had no idea at all what I was going to speak before speaking. I walked out on the stage and God would remind me of a dream, or a scripture, or a story ... and I would speak that. Then I would be reminded of something else and I would speak that. Then something else ... This was God meeting the needs of the people by HIS Spirit in the congregation that day. I had no idea what the people needed to hear but God did. I depended on God. This is how God taught me in being led by the Spirit. This is what I did and what I still do when I speak or write.
Jn. 14:26 ... But the Comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.
The Holy Spirit searches the heart of God and brings to our mind that which HE hears from God.
I Cor. 2 ... for the Spirit searcheth all things, yea, the deep things of God. 11For what man knoweth the things of a man, save the spirit of man which is in him? even so the things of God knoweth no man, but the Spirit of God.
The Spirit of God searches the heart of God to reveal to us that which God would say. It is brought to our mind in the form of a thought. We simply think that. But God has never said to me, "On Sunday morning I am going to speak such & such." This is fleshly foolishness to think this way.
Jesus spoke what HE heard from God, the Father. He always did this. He just went about speaking what HE heard from God at the time. And we should do the same. If we try to plan ahead what we are going to say it will be of our flesh, of our own thinking. And the flesh will profit nothing.
But if we speak what the Spirit brings to mind, it will work the work of God. And we will be speaking by faith in God.
The following scriptures were used by God to teach me these things.
Mt. 5:30 .. Jesus said ... I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me.
I Cor. 2 ... And I, brethren, when I came to you, came not with excellency of speech or of wisdom, declaring unto you the testimony of God. 2For I determined not to know any thing among you, save Jesus Christ, and him crucified. 3And I was with you in weakness, and in fear, and in much trembling. 4And my speech and my preaching was not with enticing words of man’s wisdom, but in demonstration of the Spirit and of power: 5That your faith should not stand in the wisdom of men, but in the power of God.
And I write the same way ... I write what I hear.
Several years ago, when I was first born again, a professor from Dallas Theological Seminary asked me if I would come work with his young men on presentation. He said these young men were so boring when they spoke.
The problem was they were trying to think up things to speak rather than following the Spirit of God.
(Providing daily encouragement for the body of Christ by the Spirit of God to help the church in the end times.)
Thursday, June 26, 2014
Dream sent by member of body of Christ
Juliett Walton
This is a dream I had in the 1970's. I did not write it down but I remember it.
Here is a little background. When I was a child and had just started walking, I was staying with my aunt. I reached up unknowingly and pulled a container of boiling water off the stove and was badly burned on my left arm. I was immediately put into the hospital. Eventually I was well enough to come home after the doctor released me. This scar has been with me all my life. I don't have any pain or limited restriction of this arm. I forget about this scar until I see it. The scar is visible and the burned area starts at the front of my elbow and extends in back of my arm towards my underarm . When summer comes, I usually don't wear anything without sleeves in public because the scar is so visible and there is sometimes a question..... what happened? After I grew up I went to see if something could be done to remove the scar or make that area look better. There was nothing, that could be done so I eventually forgot about it.
Here is the dream. I was young, not a child and not old. It was as if I was in "My Heavenly Father's Kingdom" I was running, jumping and twirling around. I was full of energy and full of joy. There was nothing there to harm me. I was wearing a white dress. The dress was sleeveless and there was no scar.
When I think of this dream I see it as the scars of this life are gone...... and there is pure joy there. In heaven we won't remember this life on earth. We will have a new body. We cannot do anything to make ourselves perfect. Our perfection is through Jesus Christ who sacrificed His life for us that we may be made acceptable to God.
This is a dream I had in the 1970's. I did not write it down but I remember it.
Here is a little background. When I was a child and had just started walking, I was staying with my aunt. I reached up unknowingly and pulled a container of boiling water off the stove and was badly burned on my left arm. I was immediately put into the hospital. Eventually I was well enough to come home after the doctor released me. This scar has been with me all my life. I don't have any pain or limited restriction of this arm. I forget about this scar until I see it. The scar is visible and the burned area starts at the front of my elbow and extends in back of my arm towards my underarm . When summer comes, I usually don't wear anything without sleeves in public because the scar is so visible and there is sometimes a question..... what happened? After I grew up I went to see if something could be done to remove the scar or make that area look better. There was nothing, that could be done so I eventually forgot about it.
Here is the dream. I was young, not a child and not old. It was as if I was in "My Heavenly Father's Kingdom" I was running, jumping and twirling around. I was full of energy and full of joy. There was nothing there to harm me. I was wearing a white dress. The dress was sleeveless and there was no scar.
When I think of this dream I see it as the scars of this life are gone...... and there is pure joy there. In heaven we won't remember this life on earth. We will have a new body. We cannot do anything to make ourselves perfect. Our perfection is through Jesus Christ who sacrificed His life for us that we may be made acceptable to God.
Bible chapters
Today's writings from:
Eccl. 3
Lk. 21
Jn. 14
I Cor. 2
Mt. 5
I Cor. 2
Jas. 1
Mt. 24
2 Peter 3
Eccl. 3
Lk. 21
Jn. 14
I Cor. 2
Mt. 5
I Cor. 2
Jas. 1
Mt. 24
2 Peter 3
Wednesday, June 25, 2014
Psalm 112:7 ... Scripture: Shared by body of Christ
Psalm 112:7 ... He shall not be afraid of evil tidings: his heart is fixed, trusting in the Lord.
Exhortation: Joan Boney ... apostle/prophet
When your heart has been established by God concerning an issue of this life, your heart is "fixed" ... It changes everything.
When we have a threatening fear, and we take that fear to God in prayer, and HE gives us something to show us that fear will not come upon us, it makes all the difference.
At one point, I had a bad report from an eye doctor and I became terrified because of that report.
I strongly turned to God. And HE reminded me of something and by that remembrance He convinced me that I would be fine concerning my vision.
Shortly after that, my hairdresser said: "What if you couldn't see to drive?" I replied: "That would be a problem." But after I left her shop, I realized I was not afraid. Usually such words would cause me to be fearful. What happened? And God reminded me of how he had established me concerning that subject. And because HE had already established me I didn't have that fear that would have usually come by words such as those spoken by my hairdresser.
Exhortation: Joan Boney ... apostle/prophet
When your heart has been established by God concerning an issue of this life, your heart is "fixed" ... It changes everything.
When we have a threatening fear, and we take that fear to God in prayer, and HE gives us something to show us that fear will not come upon us, it makes all the difference.
At one point, I had a bad report from an eye doctor and I became terrified because of that report.
I strongly turned to God. And HE reminded me of something and by that remembrance He convinced me that I would be fine concerning my vision.
Shortly after that, my hairdresser said: "What if you couldn't see to drive?" I replied: "That would be a problem." But after I left her shop, I realized I was not afraid. Usually such words would cause me to be fearful. What happened? And God reminded me of how he had established me concerning that subject. And because HE had already established me I didn't have that fear that would have usually come by words such as those spoken by my hairdresser.
Establlishing the word of God
Joan Boney ... apostle/prophet
Recently I was talking to Pam Padgett and I told her how much it meant to me when she wrote a story of how she was at work at Fed Ex the day the planes crashed into World Trade Centers and how she would have been afraid except for fact that God had shown me this in dreams and I had shared those dreams with church. That caused her not to be afraid.
I had wondered why God would have given me those dreams and now I saw one reason. When we know something is coming this way, then we are not as shocked as the people of the world for God has shown us this will happen.
For example: The day will come when the sky turns completely black and the heavens start passing away. The world will have no idea what is happening. But we, who are of God, will know if we know Bible for God tells us in Bible this will happen. II Peter 3 ... the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
We don't worry about such things as the world. They worry about "Greenhouse effect" ... they worry about ozone layer. I don't even know what these things are but I do know how the earth will be destroyed and it will not be by man but by God. (By Bible we also know God will not destroy earth by rain. Gen. 8-9)
So I saw, after Pam told her Fed Ex story, that when God shows us something and we share it, that story can help others in body of Christ to not be afraid.
After sharing with Pam the connection I made because of her story, she was bewildered and said: "But I've told that story before."
As I thought about this, I was reminded of the following words spoken by the apostle Paul.
II Cor. 13:1 ...This is the third time I am coming to you. In the mouth of two or three witnesses shall every word be established.
Paul said as he told the story two or three times, every word will be established.
We follow the Holy Spirit by speaking that which God calls to our mind.
When I am reminded of something, I try to speak it or write it. I don't care if I've told it before. The repetition of the word of God causes it to be "established" in our hearts.
Joshua 1:8 ... This book of the law shall not depart out of thy mouth; but thou shalt meditate therein day and night, that thou mayest observe to do according to all that is written therein: for then thou shalt make thy way prosperous, and then thou shalt have good success.
By keeping that word or scripture spoken by Holy Spirit in front of us day and night for a season we have a type of strength develop inside us which enables us to "do according to all that is written therein".
Recently I was talking to Pam Padgett and I told her how much it meant to me when she wrote a story of how she was at work at Fed Ex the day the planes crashed into World Trade Centers and how she would have been afraid except for fact that God had shown me this in dreams and I had shared those dreams with church. That caused her not to be afraid.
I had wondered why God would have given me those dreams and now I saw one reason. When we know something is coming this way, then we are not as shocked as the people of the world for God has shown us this will happen.
For example: The day will come when the sky turns completely black and the heavens start passing away. The world will have no idea what is happening. But we, who are of God, will know if we know Bible for God tells us in Bible this will happen. II Peter 3 ... the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
We don't worry about such things as the world. They worry about "Greenhouse effect" ... they worry about ozone layer. I don't even know what these things are but I do know how the earth will be destroyed and it will not be by man but by God. (By Bible we also know God will not destroy earth by rain. Gen. 8-9)
So I saw, after Pam told her Fed Ex story, that when God shows us something and we share it, that story can help others in body of Christ to not be afraid.
After sharing with Pam the connection I made because of her story, she was bewildered and said: "But I've told that story before."
As I thought about this, I was reminded of the following words spoken by the apostle Paul.
II Cor. 13:1 ...This is the third time I am coming to you. In the mouth of two or three witnesses shall every word be established.
Paul said as he told the story two or three times, every word will be established.
We follow the Holy Spirit by speaking that which God calls to our mind.
When I am reminded of something, I try to speak it or write it. I don't care if I've told it before. The repetition of the word of God causes it to be "established" in our hearts.
Joshua 1:8 ... This book of the law shall not depart out of thy mouth; but thou shalt meditate therein day and night, that thou mayest observe to do according to all that is written therein: for then thou shalt make thy way prosperous, and then thou shalt have good success.
By keeping that word or scripture spoken by Holy Spirit in front of us day and night for a season we have a type of strength develop inside us which enables us to "do according to all that is written therein".
Bible chapters
Today's writings from:
Psa. 112
II Cor. 13
Joshua 1
Lk. 16
I Cor. 6
I Cor. 7
Psa. 139
Psa. 112
II Cor. 13
Joshua 1
Lk. 16
I Cor. 6
I Cor. 7
Psa. 139
Tuesday, June 24, 2014
Romans 8:28 ... Scripture: Shared by body of Christ
Romans 8:28 ... And we know that all things work together for good to
them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.
Exhortation: Joan Boney ... apostle/prophet
Often I will hear people of this world say ... "Everything happens for the best ..." I know somehow they have heard the above scripture. But I also know this promise of God is for "them that love God, to them who are the called according to HIS purpose."
God allowed Herod to behead John the Baptist. Mt. 14
God allowed them to kill Stephen with stones. Acts 7:57-60
God allowed Jesus to go to a cross and die ... because it was the will of God that Jesus die for our sins.
I've heard unknowing people say, "God would never allow that to happen to me."
But I know that God does according to HIS own will ... and only when I turn to God in a threatening matter and ask HIM and hear from HIM by HIS Spirit do I really know what God will allow and what will happen to me.
But even when God allows something to happen I still know that all things will work for good because I belong to God and those things will cause me to be conformed to the image of Christ.
Exhortation: Joan Boney ... apostle/prophet
Often I will hear people of this world say ... "Everything happens for the best ..." I know somehow they have heard the above scripture. But I also know this promise of God is for "them that love God, to them who are the called according to HIS purpose."
God allowed Herod to behead John the Baptist. Mt. 14
God allowed them to kill Stephen with stones. Acts 7:57-60
God allowed Jesus to go to a cross and die ... because it was the will of God that Jesus die for our sins.
I've heard unknowing people say, "God would never allow that to happen to me."
But I know that God does according to HIS own will ... and only when I turn to God in a threatening matter and ask HIM and hear from HIM by HIS Spirit do I really know what God will allow and what will happen to me.
But even when God allows something to happen I still know that all things will work for good because I belong to God and those things will cause me to be conformed to the image of Christ.
Following friends to church
Joan Boney ... apostle/prophet
After I was born again, someone came to me and told me I had to attend church.
I replied: "I do?"
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Certainly God had not told me to do this. But I was about 37 at the time I was born again and everyone in churches was more experienced that I was so I went to the church this friend was attending.
The pastor was doing a series of "lectures" on speaking in tongues and how tongues were of the devil.
I really didn't care anything about the subject of speaking in tongues one way or another. I was bored when I went to these services but I went to them. I don't remember anything about them except that church leadership was against tongues.
At one point while attending this church I saw the following scripture: James 5 ... 14Is any sick among you? let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord: 15And the prayer of faith shall save the sick, and the Lord shall raise him up; and if he have committed sins, they shall be forgiven him.
I had gotten sick so I called the church office and told them I was sick and I needed to meet with the elders of the church as per James 5 and have them pray over me and anoint me with oil. There was dead silence on the other end of the line. Later the church secretary called me and told me she had passed my request on to the leadership of the church and she said in about 2 weeks the elders were going to have a meeting and they would discuss my case. (I could have been dead by then.) This church was a fundamental Bible church from Dallas Theological Seminary. It was a church in doctrine somewhere between Baptist and Church of Christ. I never heard from them again. A few days after calling them, I got well. God raised me up.
Then one day I was reading the Bible. I saw the following concerning what we are to do when we gather as the church.
Paul said: I Cor. 14 ... 26How is it then, brethren? when ye come together, every one of you hath a psalm, hath a doctrine, hath a tongue, hath a revelation, hath an interpretation. Let all things be done unto edifying. 27If any man speak in an unknown tongue, let it be by two, or at the most by three, and that by course; and let one interpret. 28But if there be no interpreter, let him keep silence in the church; and let him speak to himself, and to God. 29 Let the prophets speak two or three, and let the other judge. 30If any thing be revealed to another that sitteth by, let the first hold his peace. 31For ye may all prophesy one by one, that all may learn, and all may be comforted. 32And the spirits of the prophets are subject to the prophets. 33For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.
34Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law. 35And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.
36What? came the word of God out from you? or came it unto you only? 37If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the commandments of the Lord. 38But if any man be ignorant, let him be ignorant. 39Wherefore, brethren, covet to prophesy, and forbid not to speak with tongues. 40Let all things be done decently and in order.
I really didn't care a hoot about tongues at that time one way or another ... But I very much cared about what the Bible said.
Here I was attending a church which taught tongues were of the devil and Paul was saying in the Bible forbid not to speak with tongues.
I certainly wasn't going to attend a church where they taught something opposite to the Bible so I left that church immediately and never went back.
One day, I was riding in a car with my best friend who attended that church and told me I had to attend a church. I said to Donna, "OH by the way ... did you know Paul said "forbid not to speak with tongues" ?
Donna replied: :"What?"
I had a small Bible of NT which I kept in my purse. Donna pulled the car to the side of the road and said: "Let me see that ..."
I showed it to her. I was using the King James Version of the Bible.
Donna said: "Let's go to my house and look it up in other translations of the Bible." (she had several different translations at her house)
It was the same in every translation of the Bible
I said: "I'm not going to that church anymore."
Donna said she wasn't either.
I think her husband might have been a little upset but she stopped going to that church that taught against tongues.
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After that, I followed another friend to Beverly Hills Baptist church. (This friend was considered by our prayer group to be very spiritual.) That church was a "charismatic" Baptist church. I don't recall anyone speaking in a tongues but they didn't speak against it. It was a very big church ... over 3000 members ...
At one point, I went to visit with the pastor. I can't recall exactly what I asked him but I do recall his shocked reply: He said: "You'd have to be a spiritual giant to do that." (I was doing "that" all the time, about like breathing in an out. It seemed automatic to me.)
I don't recall anything else about that church.
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After that my friend who seemed spiritual to everyone in the prayer group, switched to a faith movement church called Word of Faith. Robert Tilton was the pastor. (If you want a real jolt, type Robert Tilton in Google and read the Wickipedia article.)
Bob was kind of a salesman type person ... very handsome ... wonderful "fun" personality ... pretty country type ...(not the type of person I was used to) ...
During the services Bob often spoke a doctrine concerning prosperity and how we could gain prosperity. I felt it didn't pertain to me but he was speaking some scripture during his sermons so I decided I could copy down the scripture and study those when I got home. I never missed a service. I went Sunday morning, Sunday evening, Wednesday evenings, and to all special services. They had many "special" services with visiting speakers. I don't remember anything any of these special speakers said. But I did continue to copy scriptures they quoted and study those scriptures.
During that time, God gave me a dream ... it was about poison gas ...
In this dream, I went into a room where a meeting was going on. There was one vacant seat on the aisle and I sat down and began listening to a man who was speaking to the group. Another man rushed and went to the front of the room and said, "Stop ... wait ... can't you see ... It's too late! It's already begun."The first man resumed speaking to the group. I looked out the window and was shocked at what I saw. There was a tall, civil defense type pole with a yellow warning speaker on top of the pole. Out of the speaker was coming a poison gas. I knew it would kill the people and shockingly the gas was coming from our own speaker which was supposed to warn us. I looked at the man who was sitting next to me. He was sitting upright. He had a big smile on his face. He was looking directly at the speaker in an attentive way. But this man was a corpse. He was dead though he looked alive. Then I looked at people around the room and they were already dead also. And as I sat back in my seat, I felt myself falling asleep, dying as I listened to the speaker.
God showed me that in this dream HE was showing me what is going on in the churches.
I still didn't see anything wrong at Word of Faith.
Then one Wednesday night, Bob was speaking as usual and I looked at the man sitting next to me and he looked like a corpse. I looked about the room and the other people looked dead to me. (They looked exactly like the dead people in that poison gas dream.)
I got up and went to rest room and began talking to God. I said to God: "I think you are telling me to leave this church group. I'm going to drive away. But if You want me to return, I'll come back."
After I left God began showing me some of the doctrine professed by that faith movement. First HE showed me the following. They taught that all good is from God and all bad is from the devil. Sounds right. But then God took me to the following scripture: Jesus was hanging on a cross. Jesus gave up the ghost. After that there was an earthquake: Mt 27 ... 54Now when the centurion, and they that were with him, watching Jesus, saw the earthquake, and those things that were done, they feared greatly, saying, Truly this was the Son of God.
Earthquakes destroy property. Earthquakes are "bad" ... right? But doesn't God send earthquakes ... and hail ... and wind ... and tornadoes ... Then how can this be that they are "bad" when God is the author?
Didn't the centurion and they that were watching Jesus turn to God after they saw the earthquake. That is what it seems to say in Mt. 27.
So how can the earthquake be bad?
With that, God began unraveling the faith movement doctrine and I came to see the teaching was basically that all good is from God and all bad is from devil and we as believers have authority over the devil. First there is the assumption that we as human can tell what is good and what is bad.
Next, concerning having authority over such things as storms, (which was being taught at the Faith Movement church that I attended) I began to wonder how it was that a storm could hit when all these big faith movement people had authority over such. And if their faith is so great, why didn't they stop it?
Unknown to me at the time, my "spiritual" friend that I had followed to that faith movement church had left. And our Sunday school teacher at that church, Don Gelino, had left. At one point I spoke with Don. I said: "I didn't know I was different from them... I always thought I was like them." (Except I didn't care for that prosperity message and it never seemed to pertain to me.)
Don replied: "Joan ... you were never like them."
I said: "I wasn't?"
My "spiritual friend" said she was worse off when she left that church than she was when she came to it.
During the time I was attending that faith movement church I had another bit of insight.
We had a very bad ice storm in Dallas. I couldn't get to church. So I walked to Highland Park Methodist Church which was a little over a block from my apartment. As I walked there, I noticed the cars that obviously belonged to the people that attended Highland Park Methodist Church. There were numerous expensive cars... Mercedes, BMW, Cadillacs ... I thought, "How can this be?" Those people don't know anything about God, yet they were obviously so rich. While many of the faith movement people seemed to be so poor. The prosperity message likely appealed to poorer people since there was a prospect of becoming rich in material goods. (fulfilling covetousness) This all seemed very strange to me.
In the meantime, I find more and more money coming to me and more things around me than I've ever had ... but I'm not trying to get more money or things and I wasn't applying the faith movement message on prosperity, yet I kept prospering.
But what I was doing ever since being born were the following scriptures ...
Psalm 1 ... 1Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly, nor standeth in the way of sinners, nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful. 2But his delight is in the law of the LORD; and in his law doth he meditate day and night. 3And he shall be like a tree planted by the rivers of water, that bringeth forth his fruit in his season; his leaf also shall not wither; and whatsoever he doeth shall prosper.
Joshua 1:8 ... 8This book of the law shall not depart out of thy mouth; but thou shalt meditate therein day and night, that thou mayest observe to do according to all that is written therein: for then thou shalt make thy way prosperous, and then thou shalt have good success.
Along the way, Don had noticed this. He said they talked about faith but the one he thought who really had faith and lived it was me. All I was doing was believing the Bible, keeping the Word of God before me day and night, doing what the scripture brought to my mind said to do ... and continuing to do this.
Several months before I had left Word of Faith, God had made it clear to me that I was called and set in the body of Christ as apostle/prophet. (Eph. 4) ... And in the night, what I believed to be an angel of God spoke three words to me: "Hartford, Seattle, KWJS" ... and I ended up doing exhortations on a radio broadcast (KWJS) 5 days a week/30 min. per day. And I had a great many people seeking me out as a result of those teachings on radio.
God had given me a gift of exhortation for the church and had taught me not to plan out anything but rather just to turn on the recorder and speak what I heard from HIM and broadcast that. And that is what I did and that is what I still do when I write (or speak). I just write those things brought to my mind believing it is Holy Spirit reminding me since that is one of things Holy Spirit does. (Jn. 14:26) I never plan anything ahead of time. I do read Bible and try to meditate on that spoken to me by the Holy Spirit. Then whatever God draws out of me I speak and write. It is very easy and very simple.
(And a few days after I was born again I was transported into heaven twice as I slept in the night and both times the same thing happened. I knew I was with God, with Christ, and with the Holy Spirit. I was "merged " into the body of Jesus ... made one with the Word of God ... as God and the Holy Spirit witnessed. It was wonderful! and this was probably a part of preparing me for the work of the ministry to which I was called by God.)
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So I followed friends to church and to a prayer group but God never told me to go to any church. And after God brought me out of Word of Faith I expected God to put me into another group and He did not. Yet the church was my life. I was always there after I was born again until I was taken out by God. Today I understand that we are the church.
After I was born again, someone came to me and told me I had to attend church.
I replied: "I do?"
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Certainly God had not told me to do this. But I was about 37 at the time I was born again and everyone in churches was more experienced that I was so I went to the church this friend was attending.
The pastor was doing a series of "lectures" on speaking in tongues and how tongues were of the devil.
I really didn't care anything about the subject of speaking in tongues one way or another. I was bored when I went to these services but I went to them. I don't remember anything about them except that church leadership was against tongues.
At one point while attending this church I saw the following scripture: James 5 ... 14Is any sick among you? let him call for the elders of the church; and let them pray over him, anointing him with oil in the name of the Lord: 15And the prayer of faith shall save the sick, and the Lord shall raise him up; and if he have committed sins, they shall be forgiven him.
I had gotten sick so I called the church office and told them I was sick and I needed to meet with the elders of the church as per James 5 and have them pray over me and anoint me with oil. There was dead silence on the other end of the line. Later the church secretary called me and told me she had passed my request on to the leadership of the church and she said in about 2 weeks the elders were going to have a meeting and they would discuss my case. (I could have been dead by then.) This church was a fundamental Bible church from Dallas Theological Seminary. It was a church in doctrine somewhere between Baptist and Church of Christ. I never heard from them again. A few days after calling them, I got well. God raised me up.
Then one day I was reading the Bible. I saw the following concerning what we are to do when we gather as the church.
Paul said: I Cor. 14 ... 26How is it then, brethren? when ye come together, every one of you hath a psalm, hath a doctrine, hath a tongue, hath a revelation, hath an interpretation. Let all things be done unto edifying. 27If any man speak in an unknown tongue, let it be by two, or at the most by three, and that by course; and let one interpret. 28But if there be no interpreter, let him keep silence in the church; and let him speak to himself, and to God. 29 Let the prophets speak two or three, and let the other judge. 30If any thing be revealed to another that sitteth by, let the first hold his peace. 31For ye may all prophesy one by one, that all may learn, and all may be comforted. 32And the spirits of the prophets are subject to the prophets. 33For God is not the author of confusion, but of peace, as in all churches of the saints.
34Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law. 35And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.
36What? came the word of God out from you? or came it unto you only? 37If any man think himself to be a prophet, or spiritual, let him acknowledge that the things that I write unto you are the commandments of the Lord. 38But if any man be ignorant, let him be ignorant. 39Wherefore, brethren, covet to prophesy, and forbid not to speak with tongues. 40Let all things be done decently and in order.
I really didn't care a hoot about tongues at that time one way or another ... But I very much cared about what the Bible said.
Here I was attending a church which taught tongues were of the devil and Paul was saying in the Bible forbid not to speak with tongues.
I certainly wasn't going to attend a church where they taught something opposite to the Bible so I left that church immediately and never went back.
One day, I was riding in a car with my best friend who attended that church and told me I had to attend a church. I said to Donna, "OH by the way ... did you know Paul said "forbid not to speak with tongues" ?
Donna replied: :"What?"
I had a small Bible of NT which I kept in my purse. Donna pulled the car to the side of the road and said: "Let me see that ..."
I showed it to her. I was using the King James Version of the Bible.
Donna said: "Let's go to my house and look it up in other translations of the Bible." (she had several different translations at her house)
It was the same in every translation of the Bible
I said: "I'm not going to that church anymore."
Donna said she wasn't either.
I think her husband might have been a little upset but she stopped going to that church that taught against tongues.
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After that, I followed another friend to Beverly Hills Baptist church. (This friend was considered by our prayer group to be very spiritual.) That church was a "charismatic" Baptist church. I don't recall anyone speaking in a tongues but they didn't speak against it. It was a very big church ... over 3000 members ...
At one point, I went to visit with the pastor. I can't recall exactly what I asked him but I do recall his shocked reply: He said: "You'd have to be a spiritual giant to do that." (I was doing "that" all the time, about like breathing in an out. It seemed automatic to me.)
I don't recall anything else about that church.
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After that my friend who seemed spiritual to everyone in the prayer group, switched to a faith movement church called Word of Faith. Robert Tilton was the pastor. (If you want a real jolt, type Robert Tilton in Google and read the Wickipedia article.)
Bob was kind of a salesman type person ... very handsome ... wonderful "fun" personality ... pretty country type ...(not the type of person I was used to) ...
During the services Bob often spoke a doctrine concerning prosperity and how we could gain prosperity. I felt it didn't pertain to me but he was speaking some scripture during his sermons so I decided I could copy down the scripture and study those when I got home. I never missed a service. I went Sunday morning, Sunday evening, Wednesday evenings, and to all special services. They had many "special" services with visiting speakers. I don't remember anything any of these special speakers said. But I did continue to copy scriptures they quoted and study those scriptures.
During that time, God gave me a dream ... it was about poison gas ...
In this dream, I went into a room where a meeting was going on. There was one vacant seat on the aisle and I sat down and began listening to a man who was speaking to the group. Another man rushed and went to the front of the room and said, "Stop ... wait ... can't you see ... It's too late! It's already begun."The first man resumed speaking to the group. I looked out the window and was shocked at what I saw. There was a tall, civil defense type pole with a yellow warning speaker on top of the pole. Out of the speaker was coming a poison gas. I knew it would kill the people and shockingly the gas was coming from our own speaker which was supposed to warn us. I looked at the man who was sitting next to me. He was sitting upright. He had a big smile on his face. He was looking directly at the speaker in an attentive way. But this man was a corpse. He was dead though he looked alive. Then I looked at people around the room and they were already dead also. And as I sat back in my seat, I felt myself falling asleep, dying as I listened to the speaker.
God showed me that in this dream HE was showing me what is going on in the churches.
I still didn't see anything wrong at Word of Faith.
Then one Wednesday night, Bob was speaking as usual and I looked at the man sitting next to me and he looked like a corpse. I looked about the room and the other people looked dead to me. (They looked exactly like the dead people in that poison gas dream.)
I got up and went to rest room and began talking to God. I said to God: "I think you are telling me to leave this church group. I'm going to drive away. But if You want me to return, I'll come back."
After I left God began showing me some of the doctrine professed by that faith movement. First HE showed me the following. They taught that all good is from God and all bad is from the devil. Sounds right. But then God took me to the following scripture: Jesus was hanging on a cross. Jesus gave up the ghost. After that there was an earthquake: Mt 27 ... 54Now when the centurion, and they that were with him, watching Jesus, saw the earthquake, and those things that were done, they feared greatly, saying, Truly this was the Son of God.
Earthquakes destroy property. Earthquakes are "bad" ... right? But doesn't God send earthquakes ... and hail ... and wind ... and tornadoes ... Then how can this be that they are "bad" when God is the author?
Didn't the centurion and they that were watching Jesus turn to God after they saw the earthquake. That is what it seems to say in Mt. 27.
So how can the earthquake be bad?
With that, God began unraveling the faith movement doctrine and I came to see the teaching was basically that all good is from God and all bad is from devil and we as believers have authority over the devil. First there is the assumption that we as human can tell what is good and what is bad.
Next, concerning having authority over such things as storms, (which was being taught at the Faith Movement church that I attended) I began to wonder how it was that a storm could hit when all these big faith movement people had authority over such. And if their faith is so great, why didn't they stop it?
Unknown to me at the time, my "spiritual" friend that I had followed to that faith movement church had left. And our Sunday school teacher at that church, Don Gelino, had left. At one point I spoke with Don. I said: "I didn't know I was different from them... I always thought I was like them." (Except I didn't care for that prosperity message and it never seemed to pertain to me.)
Don replied: "Joan ... you were never like them."
I said: "I wasn't?"
My "spiritual friend" said she was worse off when she left that church than she was when she came to it.
During the time I was attending that faith movement church I had another bit of insight.
We had a very bad ice storm in Dallas. I couldn't get to church. So I walked to Highland Park Methodist Church which was a little over a block from my apartment. As I walked there, I noticed the cars that obviously belonged to the people that attended Highland Park Methodist Church. There were numerous expensive cars... Mercedes, BMW, Cadillacs ... I thought, "How can this be?" Those people don't know anything about God, yet they were obviously so rich. While many of the faith movement people seemed to be so poor. The prosperity message likely appealed to poorer people since there was a prospect of becoming rich in material goods. (fulfilling covetousness) This all seemed very strange to me.
In the meantime, I find more and more money coming to me and more things around me than I've ever had ... but I'm not trying to get more money or things and I wasn't applying the faith movement message on prosperity, yet I kept prospering.
But what I was doing ever since being born were the following scriptures ...
Psalm 1 ... 1Blessed is the man that walketh not in the counsel of the ungodly, nor standeth in the way of sinners, nor sitteth in the seat of the scornful. 2But his delight is in the law of the LORD; and in his law doth he meditate day and night. 3And he shall be like a tree planted by the rivers of water, that bringeth forth his fruit in his season; his leaf also shall not wither; and whatsoever he doeth shall prosper.
Joshua 1:8 ... 8This book of the law shall not depart out of thy mouth; but thou shalt meditate therein day and night, that thou mayest observe to do according to all that is written therein: for then thou shalt make thy way prosperous, and then thou shalt have good success.
Along the way, Don had noticed this. He said they talked about faith but the one he thought who really had faith and lived it was me. All I was doing was believing the Bible, keeping the Word of God before me day and night, doing what the scripture brought to my mind said to do ... and continuing to do this.
Several months before I had left Word of Faith, God had made it clear to me that I was called and set in the body of Christ as apostle/prophet. (Eph. 4) ... And in the night, what I believed to be an angel of God spoke three words to me: "Hartford, Seattle, KWJS" ... and I ended up doing exhortations on a radio broadcast (KWJS) 5 days a week/30 min. per day. And I had a great many people seeking me out as a result of those teachings on radio.
God had given me a gift of exhortation for the church and had taught me not to plan out anything but rather just to turn on the recorder and speak what I heard from HIM and broadcast that. And that is what I did and that is what I still do when I write (or speak). I just write those things brought to my mind believing it is Holy Spirit reminding me since that is one of things Holy Spirit does. (Jn. 14:26) I never plan anything ahead of time. I do read Bible and try to meditate on that spoken to me by the Holy Spirit. Then whatever God draws out of me I speak and write. It is very easy and very simple.
(And a few days after I was born again I was transported into heaven twice as I slept in the night and both times the same thing happened. I knew I was with God, with Christ, and with the Holy Spirit. I was "merged " into the body of Jesus ... made one with the Word of God ... as God and the Holy Spirit witnessed. It was wonderful! and this was probably a part of preparing me for the work of the ministry to which I was called by God.)
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So I followed friends to church and to a prayer group but God never told me to go to any church. And after God brought me out of Word of Faith I expected God to put me into another group and He did not. Yet the church was my life. I was always there after I was born again until I was taken out by God. Today I understand that we are the church.
Bible chapters
Today's writings from:
Romans 8
Mt. 14
Acts 7
James 5
I Cor. 14
Mt. 27
Psa. 1
Josh. 1
Eph. 4
I Cor. 11
Romans 8
Mt. 14
Acts 7
James 5
I Cor. 14
Mt. 27
Psa. 1
Josh. 1
Eph. 4
I Cor. 11
Monday, June 23, 2014
Psalm 42:11 ... Scripture: Shared by body of Christ
Psalm 42:11 ... Why art thou cast down, O my soul? and why art thou
disquieted within me? hope thou in God:for I shall yet praise him, who
is the health of my countenance, and my God.
Exhortation: Joan Boney ... apostle/prophet
Our hope is in God who created heaven and earth. When we belong to HIM, we might temporarily be afraid or downcast but when we regain our senses and focus on HIM, we are restored by HIM.
A woman once told me she had a dream where she missed her mother so much she could almost reach out and feel the hurt.
I thought about her being concerned about this fleshly thing. What should concern us is being separated from God. HE should be our desire.
And I recalled what Paul said ... Romans 8 ... 35Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword? 36As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter. 37Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us. 38For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come, 39Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
I don't believe the woman who told me her desire toward her mother belongs to God.
Exhortation: Joan Boney ... apostle/prophet
Our hope is in God who created heaven and earth. When we belong to HIM, we might temporarily be afraid or downcast but when we regain our senses and focus on HIM, we are restored by HIM.
A woman once told me she had a dream where she missed her mother so much she could almost reach out and feel the hurt.
I thought about her being concerned about this fleshly thing. What should concern us is being separated from God. HE should be our desire.
And I recalled what Paul said ... Romans 8 ... 35Who shall separate us from the love of Christ? shall tribulation, or distress, or persecution, or famine, or nakedness, or peril, or sword? 36As it is written, For thy sake we are killed all the day long; we are accounted as sheep for the slaughter. 37Nay, in all these things we are more than conquerors through him that loved us. 38For I am persuaded, that neither death, nor life, nor angels, nor principalities, nor powers, nor things present, nor things to come, 39Nor height, nor depth, nor any other creature, shall be able to separate us from the love of God, which is in Christ Jesus our Lord.
I don't believe the woman who told me her desire toward her mother belongs to God.
Trying to attend another Assembly of God church group
Joan Boney ... apostle/ prophet
It was a Wednesday night and I decided to visit another Assembly of God church group. That night there were 150-200 people in congregation and pastor was speaking to the group.
Pastor started speaking about Jimmy Swaggart and the scandal where Swaggart was found with prostitute.
Pastor said: "We should pray for brother Swaggart."
In a very soft voice, I said: "He should be put out of the church."
The woman sitting in front of me apparently heard what I said though it was very soft. She turned and glared at me.
What Paul said to do when a "brother" is a fornicator ...
I Cor. 5 ...1It is reported commonly that there is fornication among you, and such fornication as is not so much as named among the Gentiles, that one should have his father’s wife. 2And ye are puffed up, and have not rather mourned, that he that hath done this deed might be taken away from among you. 3For I verily, as absent in body, but present in spirit, have judged already, as though I were present, concerning him that hath so done this deed, 4In the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, when ye are gathered together, and my spirit, with the power of our Lord Jesus Christ, 5To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus. 6Your glorying is not good. Know ye not that a little leaven leaveneth the whole lump?
7Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened. For even Christ our passover is sacrificed for us: 8Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven, neither with the leaven of malice and wickedness; but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth.
9I wrote unto you in an epistle not to company with fornicators: 10Yet not altogether with the fornicators of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or with idolaters; for then must ye needs go out of the world. 11But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat. 12For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within? 13But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person.
Paul didn't say to pray for such a "brother" ... nor did Paul say for us to counsel such.
Paul said: put away from among yourselves that wicked person.
A few weeks after Swaggart cried on TV and said he had sinned and asked for forgiveness, he was caught with another prostitute. This time when the policeman stopped him with the prostitute in the car, Swaggart said: "It's flat out none of your business." (Report from Wickipedia)
I didn't return to that Assembly of God church again.
It was a Wednesday night and I decided to visit another Assembly of God church group. That night there were 150-200 people in congregation and pastor was speaking to the group.
Pastor started speaking about Jimmy Swaggart and the scandal where Swaggart was found with prostitute.
Pastor said: "We should pray for brother Swaggart."
In a very soft voice, I said: "He should be put out of the church."
The woman sitting in front of me apparently heard what I said though it was very soft. She turned and glared at me.
What Paul said to do when a "brother" is a fornicator ...
I Cor. 5 ...1It is reported commonly that there is fornication among you, and such fornication as is not so much as named among the Gentiles, that one should have his father’s wife. 2And ye are puffed up, and have not rather mourned, that he that hath done this deed might be taken away from among you. 3For I verily, as absent in body, but present in spirit, have judged already, as though I were present, concerning him that hath so done this deed, 4In the name of our Lord Jesus Christ, when ye are gathered together, and my spirit, with the power of our Lord Jesus Christ, 5To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus. 6Your glorying is not good. Know ye not that a little leaven leaveneth the whole lump?
7Purge out therefore the old leaven, that ye may be a new lump, as ye are unleavened. For even Christ our passover is sacrificed for us: 8Therefore let us keep the feast, not with old leaven, neither with the leaven of malice and wickedness; but with the unleavened bread of sincerity and truth.
9I wrote unto you in an epistle not to company with fornicators: 10Yet not altogether with the fornicators of this world, or with the covetous, or extortioners, or with idolaters; for then must ye needs go out of the world. 11But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat. 12For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within? 13But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person.
Paul didn't say to pray for such a "brother" ... nor did Paul say for us to counsel such.
Paul said: put away from among yourselves that wicked person.
A few weeks after Swaggart cried on TV and said he had sinned and asked for forgiveness, he was caught with another prostitute. This time when the policeman stopped him with the prostitute in the car, Swaggart said: "It's flat out none of your business." (Report from Wickipedia)
I didn't return to that Assembly of God church again.
God is able to get our attention
Pam Padgett ... teacher
One afternoon a couple years ago I was planning to go for a ride on my bicycle. While in the garage to get the bicycle, I kept having the thought that I needed to go see if my elderly neighbor's trash can was still at the end of his driveway. (This neighbor is a widower who lives by himself.) Although it seemed a little strange to check on the neighbor's trash can, I thought it was the Holy Spirit bringing this thought so I went to look and noticed that the trash can was still in the driveway. This was unexpected because this neighbor usually put his trash can in his garage as soon as it was emptied by the trash company in the morning. I walked over to his driveway and noticed also that his newspapers hadn't been picked up yet. This, again, was very unusual.
This neighbor is hard of hearing and doesn't hear the doorbell, but is able to hear his telephone, so I went back to my house thinking I might call him to check on him. However, I started wondering if I might be over-reacting, that maybe he'd had appointments that day and just hadn't gotten home yet. I thought it might be best to wait a couple hours and then call. But a thought which I believed was from the Holy Spirit said that it wouldn't do any good to wait. I believed I was being led by the Holy Spirit to take action right then. I try to call him on the telephone, but there was no answer. I had a key to this neighbor's house, so took it and let myself into his house. I called out loudly in case he was home to let him know I was coming into the house. A very weak voice responded "Help me".
I found the neighbor lying on the kitchen floor. He had fallen more than 20 hours earlier, was unable to get up and unable to reach the telephone. After finding him and calling for an ambulance, he was taken to the hospital with several injuries.
This neighbor had no way to communicate with people, but God knew what had happened. And God was able to get my attention and lead me in finding this neighbor. All things are possible with God.
One afternoon a couple years ago I was planning to go for a ride on my bicycle. While in the garage to get the bicycle, I kept having the thought that I needed to go see if my elderly neighbor's trash can was still at the end of his driveway. (This neighbor is a widower who lives by himself.) Although it seemed a little strange to check on the neighbor's trash can, I thought it was the Holy Spirit bringing this thought so I went to look and noticed that the trash can was still in the driveway. This was unexpected because this neighbor usually put his trash can in his garage as soon as it was emptied by the trash company in the morning. I walked over to his driveway and noticed also that his newspapers hadn't been picked up yet. This, again, was very unusual.
This neighbor is hard of hearing and doesn't hear the doorbell, but is able to hear his telephone, so I went back to my house thinking I might call him to check on him. However, I started wondering if I might be over-reacting, that maybe he'd had appointments that day and just hadn't gotten home yet. I thought it might be best to wait a couple hours and then call. But a thought which I believed was from the Holy Spirit said that it wouldn't do any good to wait. I believed I was being led by the Holy Spirit to take action right then. I try to call him on the telephone, but there was no answer. I had a key to this neighbor's house, so took it and let myself into his house. I called out loudly in case he was home to let him know I was coming into the house. A very weak voice responded "Help me".
I found the neighbor lying on the kitchen floor. He had fallen more than 20 hours earlier, was unable to get up and unable to reach the telephone. After finding him and calling for an ambulance, he was taken to the hospital with several injuries.
This neighbor had no way to communicate with people, but God knew what had happened. And God was able to get my attention and lead me in finding this neighbor. All things are possible with God.
Sunday, June 22, 2014
Proverbs 4:11 ... Scripture: Shared by body of Christ
Proverbs 4:11 ... I have taught thee in the way of wisdom; I have led thee in right paths.
Exhortation: Joan Boney ... apostle/prophet
When God is in charge of us and we hear from HIM, we hear wisdom ... and HIS ways are always right paths ... according to HIS will.
But HIS ways are not always our ways. His ways are higher than our ways. Isaiah 55:8-9
Job 13:15 ... Though he slay me, yet will I trust in him:
Exhortation: Joan Boney ... apostle/prophet
When God is in charge of us and we hear from HIM, we hear wisdom ... and HIS ways are always right paths ... according to HIS will.
But HIS ways are not always our ways. His ways are higher than our ways. Isaiah 55:8-9
Job 13:15 ... Though he slay me, yet will I trust in him:
Trying to attend an Assembly of God group
Joan Boney ... apostle/prophet
At one point in hunting a church group to attend I decided to go to a small Assembly of God group. But before going I called the pastor and met with him. I can't recall anything either of us said.
On that morning after meeting with the pastor, I did attend his group. Pastor was so terrified of me that I could tell he was afraid to speak. He just read from a prepared sheet of paper and quoted scripture. I felt pastor was trying to play it safe. But in doing such, you leave faith in God and quench the Spirit of God.
On the wall of the assembly room, there was hanging a picture of a long haired man. It is that picture that many use and call "Jesus". It is not a picture of Jesus. There are no photos of Jesus. There were no cameras at that time. It is just a human pretending to be Jesus.
I did call this pastor and told him it would be good to take down this photo for it is a form of "graven image" and it is also false since there were no cameras in Jesus' day. I don't recall pastor responding.
As I started to write this, I heard "graven image" ... I brought some of these scriptures up on my computer and I began to laugh when I started reading this list.
Deut. 7 ... 5But thus shall ye deal with them; ye shall destroy their altars, and break down their images, and cut down their groves, and burn their graven images with fire. 6For thou art an holy people unto the LORD thy God: the LORD thy God hath chosen thee to be a special people unto himself, above all people that are upon the face of the earth.
Deut. 7 ... 25The graven images of their gods shall ye burn with fire: thou shalt not desire the silver or gold that is on them, nor take it unto thee, lest thou be snared therein: for it is an abomination to the LORD thy God. 26Neither shalt thou bring an abomination into thine house, lest thou be a cursed thing like it: but thou shalt utterly detest it, and thou shalt utterly abhor it; for it is a cursed thing.
Deut. 12 ... 3And ye shall overthrow their altars, and break their pillars, and burn their groves with fire; and ye shall hew down the graven images of their gods, and destroy the names of them out of that place. 4Ye shall not do so unto the LORD your God.
II Kings 17 ... 38And the covenant that I have made with you ye shall not forget; neither shall ye fear other gods. 39But the LORD your God ye shall fear; and he shall deliver you out of the hand of all your enemies. 40Howbeit they did not hearken, but they did after their former manner. 41So these nations feared the LORD, and served their graven images, both their children, and their children’s children: as did their fathers, so do they unto this day.
II Chron. 34 ... 7And when he had broken down the altars and the groves, and had beaten the graven images into powder, and cut down all the idols throughout all the land of Israel, he returned to Jerusalem.
Psa. 78 ... 58For they provoked him to anger with their high places, and moved him to jealousy with their graven images.
Psa. 97 ... 7Confounded be all they that serve graven images, that boast themselves of idols: worship him, all ye gods.
Isa. 30 ... 22Ye shall defile also the covering of thy graven images of silver, and the ornament of thy molten images of gold: thou shalt cast them away as a menstruous cloth; thou shalt say unto it, Get thee hence.
Isa. 42 ... 8I am the LORD: that is my name: and my glory will I not give to another, neither my praise to graven images.
Jere. 8 ... Why have they provoked me to anger with their graven images, and with strange vanities?
Jere. 50 ... 38A drought is upon her waters; and they shall be dried up: for it is the land of graven images, and they are mad upon their idols.
Jere. 51 ... 52Wherefore, behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will do judgment upon her graven images: and through all her land the wounded shall groan.
Hosea 11 ... 2As they called them, so they went from them: they sacrificed unto Baalim, and burned incense to graven images.
Micah 1 ... 7And all the graven images thereof shall be beaten to pieces, and all the hires thereof shall be burned with the fire, and all the idols thereof will I lay desolate: for she gathered it of the hire of an harlot, and they shall return to the hire of an harlot.
Micah 5 ... 13Thy graven images also will I cut off, and thy standing images out of the midst of thee; and thou shalt no more worship the work of thine hands. 14And I will pluck up thy groves out of the midst of thee: so will I destroy thy cities. 15And I will execute vengeance in anger and fury upon the heathen, such as they have not heard.
It is not a good idea to hang graven images on your wall or keep graven images statues on your porch. (or in your heart)
At one point in hunting a church group to attend I decided to go to a small Assembly of God group. But before going I called the pastor and met with him. I can't recall anything either of us said.
On that morning after meeting with the pastor, I did attend his group. Pastor was so terrified of me that I could tell he was afraid to speak. He just read from a prepared sheet of paper and quoted scripture. I felt pastor was trying to play it safe. But in doing such, you leave faith in God and quench the Spirit of God.
On the wall of the assembly room, there was hanging a picture of a long haired man. It is that picture that many use and call "Jesus". It is not a picture of Jesus. There are no photos of Jesus. There were no cameras at that time. It is just a human pretending to be Jesus.
I did call this pastor and told him it would be good to take down this photo for it is a form of "graven image" and it is also false since there were no cameras in Jesus' day. I don't recall pastor responding.
As I started to write this, I heard "graven image" ... I brought some of these scriptures up on my computer and I began to laugh when I started reading this list.
Deut. 7 ... 5But thus shall ye deal with them; ye shall destroy their altars, and break down their images, and cut down their groves, and burn their graven images with fire. 6For thou art an holy people unto the LORD thy God: the LORD thy God hath chosen thee to be a special people unto himself, above all people that are upon the face of the earth.
Deut. 7 ... 25The graven images of their gods shall ye burn with fire: thou shalt not desire the silver or gold that is on them, nor take it unto thee, lest thou be snared therein: for it is an abomination to the LORD thy God. 26Neither shalt thou bring an abomination into thine house, lest thou be a cursed thing like it: but thou shalt utterly detest it, and thou shalt utterly abhor it; for it is a cursed thing.
Deut. 12 ... 3And ye shall overthrow their altars, and break their pillars, and burn their groves with fire; and ye shall hew down the graven images of their gods, and destroy the names of them out of that place. 4Ye shall not do so unto the LORD your God.
II Kings 17 ... 38And the covenant that I have made with you ye shall not forget; neither shall ye fear other gods. 39But the LORD your God ye shall fear; and he shall deliver you out of the hand of all your enemies. 40Howbeit they did not hearken, but they did after their former manner. 41So these nations feared the LORD, and served their graven images, both their children, and their children’s children: as did their fathers, so do they unto this day.
II Chron. 34 ... 7And when he had broken down the altars and the groves, and had beaten the graven images into powder, and cut down all the idols throughout all the land of Israel, he returned to Jerusalem.
Psa. 78 ... 58For they provoked him to anger with their high places, and moved him to jealousy with their graven images.
Psa. 97 ... 7Confounded be all they that serve graven images, that boast themselves of idols: worship him, all ye gods.
Isa. 30 ... 22Ye shall defile also the covering of thy graven images of silver, and the ornament of thy molten images of gold: thou shalt cast them away as a menstruous cloth; thou shalt say unto it, Get thee hence.
Isa. 42 ... 8I am the LORD: that is my name: and my glory will I not give to another, neither my praise to graven images.
Jere. 8 ... Why have they provoked me to anger with their graven images, and with strange vanities?
Jere. 50 ... 38A drought is upon her waters; and they shall be dried up: for it is the land of graven images, and they are mad upon their idols.
Jere. 51 ... 52Wherefore, behold, the days come, saith the LORD, that I will do judgment upon her graven images: and through all her land the wounded shall groan.
Hosea 11 ... 2As they called them, so they went from them: they sacrificed unto Baalim, and burned incense to graven images.
Micah 1 ... 7And all the graven images thereof shall be beaten to pieces, and all the hires thereof shall be burned with the fire, and all the idols thereof will I lay desolate: for she gathered it of the hire of an harlot, and they shall return to the hire of an harlot.
Micah 5 ... 13Thy graven images also will I cut off, and thy standing images out of the midst of thee; and thou shalt no more worship the work of thine hands. 14And I will pluck up thy groves out of the midst of thee: so will I destroy thy cities. 15And I will execute vengeance in anger and fury upon the heathen, such as they have not heard.
It is not a good idea to hang graven images on your wall or keep graven images statues on your porch. (or in your heart)
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