Joan Boney ... apostle/prophet
In the early 1980's, it was announced that Kenneth Copeland's people had taken up an offering to send Kenneth and his wife on a vacation to Hawaii for Kenneth's birthday.
This was called to my attention by God.
I realized this would likely not be legal ... a tax-deductible offering as a birthday present?
Also it didn't seem to be the right thing for a minister to allow such offerings. Although it is scriptural for a minister to live off the gospel, I'm not sure I would feel comfortable paying for a birthday gift through offerings.
Immediately I tried to warn Copeland about this matter.
But then I found I could not reach Kenneth Copeland although I was relatively well known in ministry circles during those years and his mother was a close friend of mine.
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During that time, I was scheduled to have my own meeting in Fort Worth, Texas, where Kenneth Copeland lived.
Many of Copeland's followers attended my meetings since at that time I, too, was in the faith movement.
So after I spoke to the group of about 200 people, I told them I was going to be saying something they would not like.
I invited them to leave the room if they wanted to do so for we would be locking the doors of the meeting room before I spoke "this" message and they would have to wait until I finished the message before they could leave after I began speaking the message.
No one chose to leave.
So I delivered the message which I had been unable to get to Copeland concerning the birthday offering.
He did get the message after that.
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It is a common practice for radio/TV ministers to keep the church away from themselves.
Church people often idolize the minister and treat him as an Hollywood star.
As I travelled about the USA, where I spoke to radio audiences, I found I had to register in hotels by my mother's maiden name. So it can be difficult.
One of the first things God told me to do before HE put me on radio was to unlist my telephone.
But I always sent official messages on ministry letterhead and I identified myself as a "prophet" of God and I identified the message as a message from God.
Still I couldn't get written messages to Kenneth Copeland, Jimmy Swaggart or Jim Bakker.
So I just spoke these messages on my radio broadcasts, naming by name the minister while citing the problem.
God gave me the following scripture which gave me the courage to do this.
Paul said: Alexander the coppersmith did me much evil: the Lord reward him according to his works: II Timothy 4:14
I saw Paul give warnings to the church, naming by name the offender.
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Kenneth Copeland tells in his meeting how he came to be a minister.
He was a pilot, flying Kenneth Hagin to his meetings.
(Hagin is reportedly a founder of the faith movement teachings in the 1960's.)
At one point, Copeland reported thinking, "I could do this."
So he shut himself up into his garage and memorized Kenneth Hagin's tapes and began "preaching".
This is not the call of God nor is it being raised up by God.
Jude vv. 17-19 But, beloved, remember ye the words which were spoken before of the apostles of our Lord Jesus Christ; How that they told you there should be mockers (imitators) in the last time, who should walk after their own ungodly lusts.These be they who separate themselves, sensual, having not the Spirit.
My statement: I do not think Kenneth Copeland has the Holy Spirit of God. There is some kind of fierce spirit.
In 1982, God even said to me: "Kenneth Copeland is antichrist."
I was shocked … stunned … horrified.
But at that time we thought there was one antichrist. Now I know there are many antichrists in the churches, both in ministers and in congregations.
For in Bible, we see there are "many antichrists" ... not just a single antichrist …
The apostle John said there were already "many" antichrists in his day.
I John 2:18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.
Antichrist is a spirit in many men.
Therefore I know now there are many big-time ministers and relatively unknown ministers in church groups today who are "antichrist", teaching a doctrine opposite to the way of Christ.
And I know many of those in the congregations of the church groups are also "antichrists".
And Paul shows us antichrist will come through the church itself.
II Thessalonians 2:3-4 NASB Let no one in any way deceive you, for it will not come unless the apostasy comes first, and the man of lawlessness is revealed, the son of destruction, who opposes and exalts himself above every so-called god or object of worship, so that he takes his seat in the temple of God, displaying himself as being God.
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The message Copeland spoke concerning "the authority of the believer," is a prime example of man setting himself up to be "as God."
I heard him speak this message many times in the 1980's. The message was very popular because humans basically want to be "as god", controlling everything themselves rather than turning to God and trusting God.
That was one of Eve's great mistakes.
Genesis 3:1-5 Now the serpent was more subtil than any beast of the field which the Lord God had made. And he said unto the woman, Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden?
And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden: But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die.
And the serpent said unto the woman, Ye shall not surely die: For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then your eyes shall be opened, and ye shall be as gods, knowing good and evil.
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But Jesus said:
John 5:30 I can of mine own self do nothing: as I hear, I judge: and my judgment is just; because I seek not mine own will, but the will of the Father which hath sent me.
Instead of commanding devils and the weather and such, and trying to control everything by finding a scripture, we need to seek the will of God and let our requests in the issue be made known unto God through prayer, trusting God to do HIS own will and what is best for us in accomplishing HIS purpose.
I John 5:14-15 And this is the confidence that we have in Him, that, if we ask any thing according to His will, HE heareth us:
And if we know that HE hear us, whatsoever we ask, we know that we have the petitions that we desired of Him.
This is one of the basic fallacies of the entire faith movement.
And it is what the antichrist does, according to Paul.
II Thessalonians 2:3-4 KJV Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
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Many people are deceived by Kenneth Copeland because he is a good popular music type singer, he puts on a good show on stage, he is physically handsome, and above all he tells people that which they want to hear for people greatly want to be in control of everything.
The people are often trapped when the concept they try doesn't work for they think they have "weak faith" rather an error in the teaching.
But I have found that appealing as all this can be to our own flesh, God has a way to get HIS people free.
I Corinthians 10:13 There hath no temptation taken you but such as is common to man: but God is faithful, who will not suffer you to be tempted above that ye are able; but will with the temptation also make a way to escape, that ye may be able to bear it.
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Nevertheless it was ordained that antichrist would come into the churches before Jesus returns and that is simply what we are seeing today in all forms of churches.
Paul tells us the problem will come in the churches in the last days.
II Timothy 3:1-9 This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.
For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,
Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,
Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;
Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.
For of this sort are they which creep into houses, and lead captive silly women laden with sins, led away with divers lusts,
Ever learning, and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth.
Now as Jannes and Jambres withstood Moses, so do these also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, reprobate concerning the faith.
But they shall proceed no further: for their folly shall be manifest unto all men, as theirs also was.
And Paul tells us what we are to do.
II Timothy 3:13-17 But evil men and seducers shall wax worse and worse, deceiving, and being deceived.
But continue thou in the things which thou hast learned and hast been assured of, knowing of whom thou hast learned;
And that from a child thou hast known the holy scriptures, which are able to make thee wise unto salvation through faith which is in Christ Jesus.
All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness:
That the man of God may be perfect, thoroughly furnished unto all good works.
II Thessalonians 2:3-4 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition;
(Churches will "fall away" from portions of scripture allowing antichrist, the apostasy, to move into the church group.)
4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God.
(Verse 4 is a perfect description of today's "Faith Movement" church groups for they are taught to be their own god, hunting a scripture to stand on to get what they want and calling this, "The Authority of the Believer." And when it fails to work, they are taught it failed because they had weak faith. But the truth is, the doctrine is false.)
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By this information in II Thessalonians 2 and I John 2, I live in peace in spite of the situation in the churches today.
For it had to happen before Jesus returns.
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And Jesus warned us about these things in the end times.
Matthew 24:3-5 And as HE (Jesus) sat upon the mount of Olives, the disciples came unto HIM privately, saying, Tell us, when shall these things be? and what shall be the sign of THY coming, and of the end of the world?4 And Jesus answered and said unto them, Take heed that no man deceive you.
5 For many shall come in MY name, saying, I (Jesus) am Christ; and shall deceive many.
Preachers will come saying, "Jesus is Lord", and because they say that many will listen to them and be deceived.
Also individuals will come to us saying, "Jesus is Lord", and we will be deceived because at first we think they are trying to follow God. It is devastating to us when we find they are not.
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For us, we go forward trying to do the will of God.
Matthew 7:13-14 Jesus says: Enter ye in at the strait gate: for wide is the gate, and broad is the way, that leadeth to destruction, and many there be which go in thereat:
Because strait is the gate, and narrow is the way, which leadeth unto life, and few there be that find it.
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And eventually, when we recover from those church people who call themselves Christians and show themselves not to be of God, we are restored by God and we even end up going forth in both joy and peace.
Isaiah 55:12-13 For ye shall go out with joy, and be led forth with peace: the mountains and the hills shall break forth before you into singing, and all the trees of the field shall clap their hands.
Instead of the thorn shall come up the fir tree, and instead of the brier shall come up the myrtle tree: and it shall be to the Lord for a name, for an everlasting sign that shall not be cut off.
We cannot make them understand when they don't understand. For when they once understood and now do not understand, they have been turned over by God to a reprobate mind.
What happened to them is this. They chose to follow another spirit and rejected the Holy Spirit. And when that happens we should not be surprised to see them separated from us at some point it time.
We cannot make them understand when they don't understand. For when they once understood and now do not understand, they have been turned over by God to a reprobate mind.
What happened to them is this. They chose to follow another spirit and rejected the Holy Spirit. And when that happens we should not be surprised to see them separated from us at some point it time.
They loved their own fleshly ideas and the fleshly ideas of others and followed those instead of yielding themselves to the ideas given by the Holy Spirit.
Finally God cut them off, turning them over to their own fleshly desires until they became as mad men or as mad women.
When Jesus cast the devils into the herd of pigs, those animals became mad and hurled themselves off the cliff. When Jesus removes His Spirit, that person returns to operating in the flesh of men and he will do things that lead to his own downfall, though those things may even seem right and good to him at the time he does them.
Proverbs 16:25 There is a way that seemeth right unto a man, but the end thereof are the ways of death.
Romans 1:28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
God has shown me to just leave such alone and pay attention to them only if they come to me speaking of the shame they feel in that which they have done.
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